posted on Thanks, Leela - if you are applying to register a right against a registered title then you would do so using form AP1 and paying a £40 registration fee Wayne - This type of application is currently taking 52 working days on average, from the date the application was lodged with us for registration. The unregistered house deeds do indicate proof of ownership in general terms. Whether they ever held the original deeds/documents will very much depend on when the property was first registered and when you bought it. My reading of that would be that it can't be both and the devil is always in the detail. AdamH They would not refer for example to boundaries between each property. on 17 January 2019. The title boundary from Land Registry has been drawn where the drive and kerb actually meet but this gives us more land than the TP1 suggests. posted on Can i sell the house without the deeds myself? Comment by Mo on 14 October 2020, Ashley B - if you mean you applied for official copies then they are usually processed within 3 days of receipt. posted on Good Luck, Comment by on 04 April 2018. on 15 July 2018. Our family owns two very old, adjoining properties that share a passageway to their rear. AdamH Paul McMillan If your solicitor is a conveyancing one they can apply online in most cases for all three, Comment by posted on AdamH Comment by However that does not escape the basic tenet that it is the landlord/tenant;freeholder/leaseholder who should have a decent original. posted on You should be able to check this online and get a copy of the title record for £3 - https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/search-the-register . Frank Ramsay I don't know how or when the property was next sold after 1963 as our electronic records only start from 1994 for this title and refer to your own details as registered from 1987 but in many cases matters were dealt with by a buyer's solicitor and you would not always know what deeds/documents were handed over in such cases as often they went straight to the lender for security reasons. Jill - both as we register the general boundaries and the lease may offer more details as a result. ianflowers This is therefore not the Title Deed just an extract for verification prior to a written request! They can include: conveyances; contracts for sale; wills; mortgages; leases; Where are my title deeds? posted on We you search with us by address this accesses our Property Gazetteer which provides a link between the registered title number, Ordnance Survey mapping information and current address data incorporating Royal Mail’s Postcode Address File (PAF). The most important thing for us is to change the leasehold title as soon as possible. posted on My Post code is TW4 7PR. If you have land but no deeds, then you should submit an application to register it at the Land Registry. on 04 December 2019. on 21 March 2019. on 01 August 2018. posted on I bought a new build house in 2014. You can check the register online or you can apply by post for a copy (form OC1) I have just phoned the building society that I have (had) my mortgage with for the last 18 years as I have received a letter from the Land a Registry to tell me the Building Society have contacted them to say I have paid off my mortgage. Those are the sorts of things we have been doing without much success to date. Hugh Buckeridge Bargain prices…ours was sold for £935 with other’s at £650, but only marginally bigger 3 bed detached. You mentioned the average is around 34 working days. It has now been over 10 years, can we upgrade to title absolute? Presumably no-one noticed when we bought the house, or perhaps this document is not important in any case? posted on (Lenders are often reluctant to lend while there is a mismatch), Ian A Glen - wait time is around 4/5 weeks before being processed. If the property is registered with us, we may still have limited information as most of the conveyancing documents are returned when the property is first registered with us, but you could contact us with details to enquire - https://bit.ly/2F6AtxU . I inherited the family home when my mother recently passed away. Sam, Sam - all understood but I can’t help without the specifics I mentioned, Comment by The register and title plan then become the 'title deeds' hence Santander's final comment. it does say details were changed. I am really disappointed as I want to assure the new owner what rights they have about the alleyway. Leela - please note the wording '(a) to grant with the dwelling-house all such easements and rights over other property, so far as the landlord is capable of granting them ….. (b) to make the dwelling-house subject to all such easements and rights for the benefit of other property …' Can another relative legally let the property or would it be technically unauthorised? Comment by Does this turn the mortgage into an unsecured loan? posted on My buyer has seen all the deeds, They used to be, jointly, his deeds too. AdamH Leela - I don't really understand your question, The key issue is I assume whether the neighbouring properties dovetail re the rights granted/reserved both in the Act and specifically in the Conveyance/Transfer as appropriate. My Title Deeds are registered with Land Registry and I have a copy. AdamH James Anthony NOTE: Original filed. Thanks in advance! on 31 May 2018, S Crean - we won't consider and decide whether the supporting evidence submitted is sufficient until the application to upgrade the title has been made. They don;t mean any other deeds/documents I'm afraid, Comment by Also, I may just have to wait and then deal with the Executors of his estate in the near future which I'm guessing would ensure that title is passed immediately rather than having to wait 10-12yrs through adverse possession? zoe taylor Keith Pugsley Lindastansmore@gmail.com K Ashley the biggest scam ever 0 out 130,000 for customer care, Comment by Comment by on 05 July 2019. Where do I get the official version that shows my absolute title, or do I send the original back to you to update? As it was registered there was no need. I've looked into this but the costs involved are far too high for me to consider. If an interested party needs to inspect the title then they need to apply to us for a copy of the electronic record. Comment by I feel like I'm in a real pickle about this and I'd be really grateful for some advice from someone who will give me a straight answer. So if the house is registered 'title absolute' to the deceased then it should be registered 'title absolute' to me when I purchase even if there's no deed? Jane- Please see our Practice Guide 42 which explains the process - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/upgrading-the-class-of-title . Extinguishing the right and removing the covenant is something you'll need to discuss with your conveyancer as it seems likely that in order to do so you would need the consent/cooperation of the neighbour who shares the access for example. AdamH posted on The Land/Charge Certificates also became known as title deeds or deeds as a result. on 18 October 2019. The title number is HT19606. And to be honest writing to the landowner and alerting them to the issue may heighten the risk for you and may also invalidate any opportunity of insuring against the risks that may currently exist. Will that be a permanent record on house#1's title? 1. posted on Comment by My sister has had her deeds for many years since the mortgage was paid off. posted on Lynnette i own the property, i should hold the original as well as the original deeds which the solicitors have certified are a copy of the original, a very poor quality copy. on 26 May 2019, I am sick and tired of waiting for my title deeds, I waited four weeks for my bank on their title deeds . You would have to convince a judge that you had done everything possible and that there was absolutely no chance of it being sorted by your seller and if I have read your comment correctly that is not yet the case. How this was to be done we were not sure, but a year on the buyer's solicitor has announced they are keeping the money as they cannot 'correct' the deed. on 07 October 2020, My partner , paid our right 60% of a home with his parents , they live in the property and we have recently found out they have remortgage. posted on I got in touch with them today as we have still not received them and have been told that I don't need paper deeds any longer and to contact land registry for copies. Urgent advice needed. There would probably have been no compulsion to register at the time they bought the house circa 1955. Comment by As in, if the sellers don’t have that information either? Julia E Comment by The PG1 and forms FR1/DL do provide a guide as to what is required but they cannot be simplified to the cover such a complex scenario as you now face. Could this be used in lieu of deeds? posted on We purchased our house outright without mortgage and were only given our title deeds in the form of a photocopy. posted on ianflowers on 18 February 2019, Comment by on 19 March 2018, Are there any way that I can find out where in the prosess of registration we are? I am trying to find out how I transfer my late mother's leasehold flat as according to her will. Lloyds Bank, on completion of our mortgage,wrote to us to confirm this, but added: "Since 13th October 2003 properties have been electronically registered at the Land registry, which means there are no paper title deeds.". The buyer had indemnity insurance to cover the lack of consent but the terms and conditions were breached as their solicitor stupidly wrote to the ground rent owners in between exchange and completion to ask them to apportion the rent. posted on on 10 September 2018, Diane - I don;t recall that we advised lenders that 'the deeds were no longer needed'. It’s not been put on the deeds to the house. posted on Land registry have no record but have copies of all other relevant deeds. I am in the process of buying a leasehold flat. darren Comment by Thank you, AH - I believe that one is Plot 24 on the development and the application was submitted on 23 January. Ron Eccles Part of my property is only accessible from rear passage way which used to be route of access path. on 04 December 2020, Hi Adam, I have a case reference K248HQR that my conveyansor has given me, it's relating to the delay in my name being registered to the property I bought on 30th April, my conveyansing company have been terrible with communication and now cannot tell me what the delay is, wondered if you could help. I am in the process of buying a house with no title deeds the executor and family of their deceased mother are currently gathering evidence that their late mother owned the house by obtaining information from The Swindon Building Society so that they can apply for a possessory title. posted on AdamH I may be unduly worried, but I'm going to seek some professional legal conveyancing advice on where I stand / what the implications are for the future. 2. Hi. The title register document may detail: Title number; Owner; Tenure (freehold or leasehold) Purchase price/value The current average timescale for this type of application is around 66 working days so we still have a few weeks to go before I suspect it will be considered. posted on Generally speaking most registered properties have now been sold a few times over. Comment by To find out more about this and Title Deeds read below. It is then filed and a copy is available to all by post using form OC2. Unfortunately the term ‘title deeds’ is used and defined in different ways and those differences are accentuated depending on the registered/unregistered point. Comment by posted on And if it was registered when they bought as well then it’s even less likely. Comment by Adam posted on I may be misremembering, but I thought that the deeds had gone to Lloyds at the beginning of the mortgage; I'll need to go back and see if it's mentioned in the correspondence. on 19 October 2018. on 26 April 2020, Lorraine - it means the application was incomplete so we’ve asked for more details. We've tracked down the original solicitor who has admitted liability but no longer has original papers due to the length of time. He contacted the Solicitor by phone and told them to deal with myself to arrange a cost to transfer title me and he would sign the paperwork. 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